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Controversial
discoveries like genetic engineering, atomic bombs just
to name a few, have received as much races as they've
gotten their flag. Do you personally adhere to any personal
philosophy when you engage in experimentation research
of any kind?
It is very difficult
to foresee what comes out of your invention. If you
are a nuclear physicist, you are very likely to be in
the field where weapons are concerned. That's why as
a student I did not go into nuclear physicist although
most of my classmates found this to be the most exciting
topic. I went into solid state and I'm glad that I was
right. I'm very grateful for these decisions.
Of course I had the
opportunity to see what was going on. I was a student,
had a very early scholarship for German students in
the United States. I really looked and wanted to find
out what is a good field. The transistor really was
used for the benefit of humankind as a pacemaker and
as a hearing aid was something that I really liked and
I wanted to contribute to it. Just like working very
hard on solar cells.
For example, maybe helping
a better energy conversion and so on, get away from
fossil or nuclear fuels although that is difficult.
So these are parts of my philosophies but again, even
if you try very hard you never know what comes out.
Ottohan who found that uranium can be split up and that
energy can be gleaned from it. He had of course no idea
when he learnt that an atomic bomb was made. I knew
Ottohan and had actually worked with some of his equipment.
So,
there are certain areas you wouldn't go into,
say, perhaps matters of principle?
Matters
of principle, yes, since I experienced the war in Germany,
and I'm very grateful that I survived. I would like
to make peaceful applications of science, and I also
do not want to be entirely pure science, like orchid
things that's what they're called in Germany. Orchid
disciplines. I want to be in a combination where basic
science & useful applications come very close together.
It’s exciting.
Let's
move on to talk about Professor Queisser the man. I
understand Graham Bell once said that one should leave
the beaten track occasionally and dive into the woods.
Now that's exactly what you did. (QUEISSER:Yes) You've
benefited quite a bit. Now tell us what actually made
you venture out, leave everything that you've had, into
the unknown?
From Germany, I did my
Phd in Gerting, a famous university. Much of quantum
theory was developed there. But on the other hand it's
become stagnant, and I could easily read English language
and Literature because of my one student here in the
United States, no problem. I read whatever I could what
was going on. It seems that modern physics, modern new
applications will be created in the United States. Germany
was still pretty much in ruins. It’s an international
thing. Physics is really wonderful. Also coming to Singapore,
immediately having contacts, lecturing in English, lecturing
in mathematical terms, universal thing. I like that
very much.
So when I got this offer
from Shockley through one of my advisers, this is the
adviser that Shockley wrote to this one professor, and
said "I need somebody who's interested in modern
silicon and defects". This professor said, "Well,
here I suggest Hans Queisser", so I went. But my
friends said, "Are you crazy? You give up a possible
career, you could just stay here and wait until you
climb the academic ladder. Not for me. No.
Was
it gut feel? Why did you do it?
Well it was the feeling,
I'm still young, unattached, let’s go and somehow I'll
make it.
Scientific
research takes up a lot of time and energy. Now how
did you strike a balance being
a father of 3 young children?
This came later. Well I
was in silicon valley, I really worked in, I often went
to the labs, took my silicon out of the furnace in the
middle of the night, stuck another piece in, in order
to accelerate my research. But then our daughter was
born in Stanford, the son was born near Bell Labs and
so on. Yes at that time you have to … I think you must
spend more time with your family, take good care of
your children. We educated our children bilingually
English and German, which I think was very nice.
Two languages really widen
your horizon of everything, not just linguistically.
So I tried to come home not too late, read goodnight
stories in English to my kids when they were small,
but very often I was away. I had to, especially back
in Germany the competition, trying to set up a laboratory
that could really compete in the top league. That was
a lot of work. Was a lot of work. And very often I came
home very late. Had to go in on Sundays and so on. But
I hope I did not do very much and I must be very grateful
to my wife who took very good care.
When
you are in Singapore trying to nurture
the breed of entrepreneurs, people with the risk-taking
spirit. What do you think is needed apart from all the
things that the government has
been doing already?
WE had many many discussions
on that very aspect at National University of Singapore
last year even before that and this year again. You
have a very disciplined group of students here, very
well educated. Their math from high school and so on
is much better than in the US. But they are strictly
adhering to a fixed cycles of their education. They
look on grades.
Grades is very important
so they study for the exam and not for actual life.
(ZA: They are trying to break that) I know that and
that's why I tried in my lectures to do a little more
of that. The dean and the top people from NUS said this
is why we want you to really show a very different attitude.
I tried to do that with humour, anecdotes and nudging
people and say, yes here look at what can happen. Yes,
you can get rich but you have to work very hard and
so on.
A certain independence-
you have to be a little bit rebellious and a little
bit of it is coming. Having watched young Singaporeans
over the years, it is happening. You should not give
up the discipline. Especially modern industry demands
high degrees of scientific knowledge and it demands
a discipline. Silicon is such a difficult material,
it disciplines the people working with it, you have
to put on hoods, and you clean rooms and so on. You've
to be very very attentive. Its not the easygoing way
like in the Bronze Age.
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